The Treasury Secretary squared off with a prominent host over the Schumer shutdown, laying out economic pain and calling for five Democrats to cross the aisle to reopen the government while mocking the host’s past comments and even his book sales.

‘Read Your Book, So You Got One Purchase on Amazon This Week’: Bessent Cooks Stephanopoulos on Shutdown

ABC’s Sunday show brought Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent into the spotlight, and he arrived ready to make a clear, blunt case about the real costs of the government shutdown. He pushed back hard against the narrative coming from the left and from anchors who have downplayed the economic damage. The exchange quickly became less about polite debate and more about accountability and consequences.

Bessent spelled out the immediate fallout: slowed travel, disrupted cargo, and the risk of supply shortages right before the busiest travel day of the year. He warned that the shutdown is already trimming growth, and that the longer it lasts the worse the hit will be to ordinary Americans trying to make ends meet. That directness is the kind of no-nonsense messaging conservatives want to hear.

BESSENT: [W]e’ve seen an impact on the economy from day one, but it’s getting worse and worse. We had a fantastic economy under President Trump the past two quarters. And now there are estimates that the economy, economic growth for this quarter, could be cut by as much as half if the shutdown continues.

And what your correspondent didn’t talk about there, George, was there’s, of course, the human cost, and we’re going to have the busiest travel day of the year, the day after Thanksgiving. And, you know, Americans should look to five Democratic senators to come across the aisle to open that. But on the other side, there’s also, cargo is being slowed down. So, you know, we could end up with shortages, whether it’s in our supply chains, whether it’s for the holidays.

So, you know, cargo and people are both being slowed down here. And that’s for safety’s sake, George.

Stephanopoulos tried to steer the conversation to inflation and whether Americans are mistaken to still feel the pain at the pump and in their grocery carts. Bessent did not shy away from assigning responsibility for the steep inflation that hit under the previous administration. He framed the issue as a recovery the Trump administration helped start and one the new team is determined to finish without pretending problems never existed.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let’s talk about affordability and inflation. That was one of the key concerns that voters said was on their minds as they were voting this Tuesday. It appeared to be the driving force in the elections. But President Trump is still insisting that prices are way down even though last month’s report showed inflation stuck at about 3 percent.

Are Americans worried about inflation just wrong?

BESSENT: Well, George, I can tell you, the — what we’re not going to do is what happened the — under the Biden administration where, you know, the administration and the media gaslit everyone and said, “Oh, you know, there’s a vibe session. You don’t understand how good you had — had it.”

And what happened then was we had the worst inflation, 40 or 50 years — you know, 22, 23 percent, but the basket of goods and services for working Americans was up more than 30 percent.

And what we’re seeing is we had to stop the increase first. Now we are starting to see prices level off, come down. You know, gasoline is down, interest rates are down, so mortgages are down. And I think we are making substantial progress on that.

And I think over the coming months and the next year, prices are going to come down.

Bessent emphasized tangible signs people can feel: lower gasoline and easing mortgage costs, attributing that to policy shifts that halted runaway price gains. He refused to paper over the fact that working families were hit hard and defended the administration’s effort to reverse those trends. That kind of plain talk lands with voters who want outcomes, not spin.

The moment that broke the usual interview rhythm came when the conversation turned to the filibuster and who can actually end the shutdown faster. Stephanopoulos suggested changing Senate rules might be the fix, but Bessent reminded him that, historically, such moves are political shortcuts that ignore responsibility. Then he produced a personal jab, pointing to Stephanopoulos’ own past remarks and his book sales as evidence in a pointed mic-drop line.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: The president continues to post about ending the filibuster. Is that — is that the best way to end the shutdown right now? Is that what the administration’s position is?

BESSENT: No, George, the best — the best way to do it — and look, you were involved in a lot of these in the ’90s. And, you know, you basically called the Republicans terrorists and, you know, you said that it is not the responsible party that keeps the government closed.

And so, what we need is five brave, moderate Democratic senators to cross the aisle because right now it is 52 to three, 52 to three, five Democrats can cross the aisle and reopen the government. That’s the best way to do it, George.

STEPHANOPOULOS: I can disagree with you about the history there, but we don’t do history lesson right now.

BESSENT: No, George —

(CROSSTALK)

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let’s talk — let’s talk about — let’s talk about —

BESSENT: No, no, no. George, George, George —

(CROSSTALK)

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let’s talk — sir, let’s talk about what’s happening right now. I asked you a question —

BESSENT: If you want, I’ve got all your quotes here. I got all your quotes here, George.

STEPHANOPOULOS: I am sure — I am — I’m sure you do. But let’s talk about the situation right now —

(CROSSTALK)

BESSENT: And I went back and read your book. So, you got one — one purchase on Amazon this week. And that’s very much what you said.

The exchange underlined two things at once: the shutdown is hurting people and the administration wants Democrats to act instead of change Senate rules. Bessent’s direct approach and sharp rebuttals framed the debate around real-world consequences and political responsibility. That message plays to the base and to independents who want leaders solving problems, not reshaping rules to avoid doing so.